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Meat Eating in Valmiki Ramayana

There are a significant number of passages in Valmiki Ramayana where the principal characters used meat in their religious rites and daily diet. Here are some of the passages with original quotes. It was meat that would not be acceptable today to a typical Hindu. It included wild boar (wild pig) and reptile meat (mangoose or varamus)!

Please note that the Tamil poet Kamban (around 11th century CE) completely sanitizes his Ramayana from meat diet for these characters. So much so that  the first thing Rama utters when he scolds Sita after defeating Ravana is “ஊன் திறம் உவந்தனை” (“you enjoyed meat eating”)  and scolds her again a few verses later as having eaten the bright flesh of beings.  Shows how much values had changed in the intervening thousand years and caused imbalance in the value system resulting in the loss of priorities.

Onto the Valmiki passages:

  • Sita promising Ganga meat-rice  on safe return:

From Ayodhya Kandam:52: As Sita crosses Ganga she promises to Ganga what she will offer on safe return: “thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice (basically briyani)”

http://www.valmikiramayan.net/ayodhya/sarga52/ayodhya_52_frame.htm

suraaghaTasahasreNa maamsabhuutodanena cha |
yakshye tvaam prayataa devi puriim punarupaagataa || 2-52-89

89. devii= “Oh, goddess! Upaagata= After reaching; puriim= the city (Ayodhya); punaH= again; yakshhye= I shall worship (you); suraaghata sahasreNa= with thousand pots of spirituous liquor; maamsa bhuutodanena cha = and jellied meat with cooked rice; prayataa= well-prepared for the solemn rite.”

“Oh, goddess! After reaching back the city of Ayodhya, I shall worship you with thousand pots of spirituous liquor and jellied meat with cooked rice well prepared for the solemn rite.

  • Lakshmana and Rama hunting deer and wild boar (wild pig):

Then on reaching the other shore Rama and Lakshmana hunt four types of animals including wild boar, antelope, spotted antelope and another species of antelope and take their flesh and hurry in hunger to a tree as it was getting dark. Also makes one wonder how much meat they ate in one go as it is too much for three adults even for warriors.
This is the last sloka in the same chapter as above:

tau tatra hatvaa caturaH mahaa mR^igaan |
varaaham R^ishyam pR^iSatam mahaa rurum |
aadaaya medhyam tvaritam bubhukSitau|
vaasaaya kaale yayatur vanaH patim || 2-52-102

102. hatvaa= having killed; tatra= there; chaturaH= four; mR^igaan= deer (namely); varaaham= Varaaha; R^ishyam= Risya; pR^ishhatam= PR^isata; mahaaruru= (and) Mahaaruru; (the four principal species of deer); aadayaa= and taking; tvaritam= quickly; medhyam= the portions that were pure; tou= Rama and Lakshmana; bubhukshhitou= being hungry as they were; yayatuH= reached; vanaspatim= a tree; vaasayaa= to take rest; kaale= in the evening.

Having hunted there four deer, namely Varaaha, Rishya, Prisata; and Mahaaruru (the four principal species of deer) and taking quickly the portions that were pure, being hungry as they were, Rama and Lakshmana reached a tree to take rest in the evening.

  • Sita telling Ravana in the disguise of a Brahmin that Rama will bring back deer, reptiles and wild boar for meal:

From Aranya Kandam: The different types of meat Sita offers to the Brahmin guest (in which disguise Ravana is) once Rama brings them from his hunt. Note Deer, Wild Boar and a reptile (உடும்பு?) are offered.

samaashvasa muhuurtam tu shakyam vastum iha tvayaa || 3-47-22
aagamiSyati me bhartaa vanyam aadaaya puSkalam |
ruruun godhaan varaahaan ca hatvaa aadaaya amiSaan bahu || 3-47-23

22b, 23. muhuurtam samaashvasa= for a moment, be comfortable; tvayaa iha vastum shakyam= by you, here, to take rest, possible; me bhartaa= my, husband; ruruun= stag with black stripes; godhaan= mongooses like [civet-like mammals of the family Viverridae, esp. of the genus Herpestes, Marathi manguus]; varaahaan ca= wild-boars, also; hatvaa= on killing; bahu amiSaan aadaaya= aplenty, meat, on taking; puSkalam vanyam aadaaya= plentiful, forest produce, on taking; aagamiSyati= will be coming [soon.]

“Be comfortable for a moment, here it is possible for you to make a sojourn, and soon my husband will be coming on taking plentiful forest produce, and on killing stags, mongooses, wild boars he fetches meat, aplenty. [3-47-22b, 23]

  • Ravana was in the guise of a Brahmin (dvija):

saH tvam naama ca gotram ca kulam aacakSva tattvataH |
ekaH ca daNDakaaraNye kim artham carasi dvija || 3-47-24

24. dvija= oh, Brahman; saH tvam= such as you are; naama ca gotram ca kulam ca= name, also, parentage, also, caste, also; tattvataH aacakSva= in actuality, make mention of; ekaH ca= lonesomely, also; daNDaka araNye in Dandaka, forest; kim artham carasi for what, reason, you wander.

“Such as you are, oh, Brahman, you may make mention of your name, parentage and caste, in their actuality. For what reason you are wandering in Dandaka forest lonesomely?”  Thus Seetha questioned Ravana. [3-47-24]

So the upshot of all this is that having forgotten all this modern Hindus overreact to people from other religions eating pig meat or reptile meat as if they were strange animals or demons and bias their interreligious attitudes in a very negative way. We have seen that even Brahmins of Valmiki’s days (about 2000 years ago) took it normally and so modern association of vegetarianism with Brahmins  is much later.

For a solid book on how meat eating including beef eating thrived in Vedic period and continued much later see D.N. Jha’s “The Myth of the Holy Cow” which was originally banned by the BJP administration.

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  1. Vignesh
    July 7, 2010 at 3:50 am | #1

    “Thousand pots of spirituous liquor”

    So, even this is considered holy to give to Mother Ganga.
    In Tamil villages, we see people offering liqour to village Gods and Godesses.

    Why did things change from Valmiki ramayana time to now? Did Buddhism and Jainism influence Indians towards vegetarianism and not drinking liquor?

  2. December 11, 2010 at 2:24 am | #2

    The problem is not only about meat eating also about Rama telling Kausalya,Bharadwaj,Guha that he does not eatmeat. Then again just a few sloks away he is killing and eating. The problem is about lying.

  3. December 17, 2010 at 3:38 am | #3

    In Sloka 2-52-102 There is no mention of eating meat Infact just before Rama says to Guha Know me as Person eating roots and fruits (2-50-44)Again in Bhardwaj muni ashram he says “living on roots and fruits.” But hunts again and kills in sloka (2-55-33) Here also many bloggers have wrongly translates roaming as eating. Hanuman tells Seetha that Rama is not eating Meat(5-36-41). Inspite of these many bloggers say that they ate. So Vegetarianism is a Fad in Ramayana Though Rama as Kshatriya is a meat eater. But did not take meat in Forest. See mu Blog (http://mghariharan.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/rama-a-vegetarian-faddist/)

  4. anirudh
    December 29, 2011 at 12:33 pm | #4

    i don’t think rama was lying.. i think he was just saying it to kaushalya out of frustration.
    he also said he will be alone living like a muni.. then why is he carrying a bow and why is lakshmana ans sita with him when he should’ve been alone.
    the thing is rama was just saying out of anger,i think he changed his mind and relaxed him-self afterwards.

  5. December 30, 2011 at 10:58 am | #5

    Please quote and don’t assume anything. He never said I will be alone.
    Told in anger to Kausalya? Anger at what ? what about said to Guha, Bharadvaj and Hanuman saying to Seetha.
    Answer all points.

  6. CHAND
    February 16, 2012 at 6:26 am | #6

    AFTER INVASION OF MOHAMMAD BIN QASIM, jaipal rana, a hindu king first made a war with one of ghazni dynesty in which he got a defeat and thus agreed to pay tribute for a mercy at his life and when he was released he declined to pay tributes and made another attack with other hindu rajas to ghazni, and thus compelled mehmood ghaznavi to invade towards indian subcontinent.On the Other hand peoples in india use to make a request to the composer of this universe to grant ‘shanti’ by requesting “composer of the universe” by saying “om shanti”. their request was approved by the almighty and thus dharam of shanti” known as peace or islam entered this way to indian subcontinent wherealready approached aryans use to make people fool in the name of religion { who entered this indian subcontinent when it is said that prophet moses [pbuh} expelled SAMARI " WHO STARTED A FALSE RELIGION BY MAKING COW AS A WORSHIPABLE"AND THUS GOT AN EXILE WITH HIS FOLLOWERS BY PROPHET MOSES (PBUH) in 15 century BC. THESE DESCIPLES OF SAMRI ( IT SEEMS)LATER ON ENTERED IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT WITH-THESE SLOGANS:

    1- "touch me not" AS MOSES GAVE SAMRI A BAD-DUA THAT HIS SLOGAN WILL BE "TOUCH ME NOT" FOR REST OF HIS LIFE THAT LEAD TO THE START OF UNTOUCHABLITY BY THE DESCIPLE OF SAMRI-"THE ARYANS" WHO ENTERED INDIAN SUBCONTINENT 15 CENTURY BC [JUST AFTER THE TIME OF PROPHET MOSES (PBUH)]

    2- THE DESCIPLE OF SAMRI-”THE ARYANS” ENTERED THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT WORSHIPPING COW (A SHIRK-THUS NOT LIKED BYE ALMIGHTY), WHICH WAS STARTED BY SAMRI {WHO MADE A GOLDEN CALF-REFER MOSES EPISODE} SO GOT AN EXILE FROM THE CHILDREN OF – ISRAIL.

    3- IT WAS ARYANS WHO ENTERED INDIAN SUB-CONTINENT REMEMBERING THE GOD BY THE NAME OF ‘BARHAMA”. IT IS STATED HERE THAT HAZRAT IBRAHIM{PBUH} WHO WAS A PROPHET WAS MADE WORSHIPABLE BY THE PEOPLE ‘AS GOD’ AT THE TIME BEFORE MOSES SINCE IBRAHIM IN HEBRAW IS WRITTEN AS ABRAHAM AND IF ‘A’ IS REMOVED FROM ‘ABRAHAM’ AT START AND ADDED AT THE LAST THEN THE WORD ABRAHAM BECOMES “BARHAMA” . SIMLARLY THE WORD ‘SARA” WIFE OF ABRAHAM BECAME SARASVATI” THUS THESE WORD BECAME WORD OF ‘GOD AND GODESES TO REMBER GOD misguided BY ARIYANS’

    बंगाली मुस्लामें पR
    सरकारी कीक लगे गी
    नेपाल देसियों को
    अब नौकरी मिले गी
    शर्मा कहाँ से आया
    सवाल यह न होगा
    बहार से खान आया
    इल्जाम यह लगे गा

    अब देव महा ओसी, { MEANS GOD IS VERY GREAT]

    पर गहन सी लगे गी
    और बन्दे मातरम की
    धुन ज़ोर से बजे गी
    ना तस्य प्रतिमा अस्ति
    पर डस्ट सी जामे गी
    और multi खुदाओ की
    प्रतिमाएं अब सजें गी

    4-THE WORD SHIVA and RUDRA WAS REMBERED AS ” ONE GOD in indian subcontinent BEFORE THE ARIVAL OF ARIYANS. ARIYAN CARRYING SLOGAN OF “touch me not” DID NOT WANTED POORS{DRAVIDIANS} TO NEITHER TOUCH THEM NOR THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. SO FOR UNTOUCHABLES THEY COMPOSED SOME SELF FABRCATED PURANAS IN WHICH THEY GAVE SHIVA A HUMAN AAKAR AND THUS SHIVA LINGUM WHICH PREVIOUSLY MENT ‘SIGN OF ONE GOD’ WAS TOO CAMPARED WITH A PRATIMA OF SO CALLED “MALE SEXUAL ORGAN” AND THUS THE INNOCENT INDIAN PUBLIC STARTED WORSHPPING PRATIMA OF THE MALE SEXUAL PART. AND THIS WAS NOT LIKED BY ALMIGHTY AND THUS ARYAN THEMSELF SANK IN WORSHIPING PRATIMA OF MALE SEXUAL PART FORGETTING SHRALOKA OF VEDA ” NA -TASAYA PRATIMA ASTI” MEANS ‘HE {GOD] DOES NOT HAS ANY IMAGE’.

    5-GHAZNVI IT SEEMS KNEW THE FRAUD OF ARIYANS THUS TOOK WITH HIM THE PRATIMA OF SHIVA SEXUAL PART WITH HIM SO THAT BARAHMAN MIGHT NOT FOOL PUBLIC IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.

    6-SO THEY WERE PANDITS WHO MADE INDIAN PUBLIC FOOL IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND STILL DOING IT. THE NAME OF NUH WAS CHANGED TO MANU AS {if we survey the word of water in different language, we find that mum stands for water in urdu, meh too is called rain that too is water related, megha in Hindi called clouds related to water, MARINE LIFE MEANS SAE LIFE IN ENGLISH, in Italian and Swedish word for water are mar and mer, the Arabic word of water is ma-un } and thus MA STANDS IN HIBRAW AS WATER AND NU IS THE TITLE OF HAZRATE NUH (PBUH) SINCE IT WAS THE TIME OF NUH THAT EARTH WAS FILLED WITH WATER OR WE CAN SAY { NU – PANI WALE {PBUH} MEANS MA+NU=MANU {PEACE BE UPON HIM}. AND SO THE MANU SMIRITI WAS FABRICATED AS A TRADITION OF MANU. HERE THIS MAY BE STATED THAT THE TRADITION OF HAZRATE NUH (PBUH) WAS THAT WHEN THE EARTH WAS FILLED WITH WATER, SAVE THAT HUMANITY{ WHO SAY THERE IS NONE WORSHIPABLE BUT ALMIGHTY} AND AT THE SAME TIME SAVE OTHER SPECIES OF ANIMAL TOO WHICH MAY LIKELY TO IN DANGOUR. IN MANU SMRITY IT IS SAID THAT LATER ON AFTER MANU BARHAMA TOLD ABOUT THE CASTE SYSYEM. IF WE CONSIDER THA SHAJRA-E-PAIGHAMBARI, WE FIND THAT IN THE TENTH GENRATION OF HAZRATE NUH {PBUH} THERE CAME prophet HAZRATE IBRAHIM MANU {PEACE BE UPON HIM} WHO IS REMEMBERED AS BARHAMA by Bahamans AS EXPLAIND BY TWISTING THE NAME OF ABRAHAM {a HEBRAW PRONOUNCIATION of HAZRAT IBRAHIM (PBUH} WHO NEVER TOLD CONCEPT OF CASTE SYSTEM AND WHO WAS NOT THE FIRST MAN ON EARTH AS HE IS REMEMBERED AS A KING TOO AND IT IS SAID THAT PEOPLES USE TO RUN AWAY FROM HIS INVITATION [EXCEPT FEW WHOS CHILDREN STILL LIVE AT THIS EARTH]. MIGHT BE IN RESPECT HE IS CALLED THE FIRST MAN AS WE SAY MRS. OBAMA IS THE FIRST LADY, PRESIDENT OF INDIA IS THE FIRST CITIZEB ETC. IN RESPECT. IF WE SEE THE SHIJRA-E-PAGHAMBARI, WE FIND THAT NINTH GENERATION BEFORE HAZRATE NUH [PBUH] KNOWN AS MANU IN HINDU SCRIPTURES, THERE WAS A PROPHET CALLED HAZRAT-E-ADAM (PBUH] FATHER OF HUMANITY WHO WAS DECENDED ON THIS EARTH FROM SKY AND LIVED IN THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT IN HIS EARLY AGES AND IT WAS THE HOLY LAND OF THIS INDIAN SUBCONTINENT THAT GAVE A NAURISHMENT TO HAZRATE ADAM[PBUH} WHO WAS GUIDED BY THE ALMIGHTY TO GO TO MECCA AND CONSTRUCT THE STIMULATION OF BAIT-E-MAMOOR [HOUSE OF ALMIGHTY] OF THE HEAVEN . HERE IT CAN BE NOTED THAT HAZRAT-E-HALIMA GAVE NAURISHMENT TO HAZRAT MOHAMMAD AND THUS SO PRAISED BUT THE NAURISHMENT GIVEIN TO HAZARAT-E-ADAM {THUS WHOLE NIZAM-E-PAIGHABARI GOT A NAURISHMENT] BY THIS HOLY LAND OF THIS INDIAN SUB-CONTINENT WAS IGNORED HERE [SO SAD].

    7-Islamic literature tells us that Prophet Adam descended directly from the heaven on Indian soil. India was his first domicile and the entire human race has spread from here. For this very reason the nomenclature A’dmi is used to denote human being. We find numerous references to this effect in Muslim magnum opus i.e. Subhatul Marjan Fi Tarikhe Hindustan, written by the celebrated Islamic scholar Allama Ghulam Ali Azad Bilgrami. In which it is stated that according to the sayings of the Prophet’s companions such as Caliph Hazrat Ali, Ummul Momineen Hazrat Ayesha, Adam, the first human being and the first Propeht of Islam sent on earth, descended on Sarandeep island (now situated in Ceylon). Hawwa (Eve) descended somewhere in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Both, first ever inhabitants of earth, remained separated for quite some time. Wandering through the island and crossing through India, Adam reached Jeddah. And eventually their long drawn separation came to an end. Adam and Hawwa (Eve) met each other at a place called Muzdalifa (meaning meeting point in Arabic). At this place, it is obligatory on Haj pilgrims to stay put and spend one night to revive the memory of Adam and Eve’s rendezvous.

    EVEN KAABA WAS FIRST CONSTRUCTED BY HAZRATE ADAM (PBUH) WHO LIVED IN INDIAN SUBCONTINENT. THIS INDIAN SHINE WAS IGNORED BY ARYAN AS THEY TOLD INDIANS THAT MANU WAS THE FIRST MAN ON EARTH.

    8-EVEN THE SATI PARAMPARA CAME TO INDIA BY ARYANS WHO STARTED BURNING THE DEAD BODY IN COMEMORATION OF THE END OF SAMRI – GOLDEN CALF {AS PROPHET MOSES NOT ONLY GAVE AN EXILE TO THE SAMRI AND HIS ASSOCIATE BUT BURNT THE GOLDEN CALF AND ITS ASH WAS THROWN IN THE SEA AND THUS {COPYING THIS DEAD} BURNING THE DEAD BODY AT FUNERAL PYRE AND THROWING OF ASHES TO A RIVER WAS STARTED BY THE DESCIPLES OF SAMRI IN THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT. AND THUS ON THE EVE OF THE DEATH OF A HINDU, FOUR QUINTAL WOOD IS REQUIRED TO BURN THE DEAD BODY HENCE A TREE IS CUT AND THE DEAD BODY IS CONVERTED INTO FOUR QUINTLE SMOKE THAT TO POLLUTE AIR AND WITH THE ROTATION OF THIS EARTH THIS SMOKE FINALLY GOES TO NORTH AND SOUTH POLE CAUSING A HOLE IN THE OZONE LAYER THERE THAT LEADS TO ENCOURAGMENT OF SKIN CANCER AND GLOBAL WARMING LEADING TO MELTING OF ICE BERGS AND THUS RAISING THEMEAN SAE LEVEL REDUCING THE LAND AREA OF THE EARTH DRASTICALLY. MORE OVER THE RIVER WATER TOO POLLUTES AFTER GETTING THE DEAD BODY AND ITS ASHES. HAD THE DEAD BODY BEEN BURIED IN THE HOLY LAND, ITS GRADUAL DECAY CAUSES EARTH TO GET FIRTILITY SO AS TO PROMOTE GREENARY, LEADING TO OXYGENATE THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT.

    9-ARYANS PRAISED COW IN SUCH A WAY THAT SOME OF HINDUS EVEN STARTED DRINKING COW URINE.

    10 – LATER ON THE SLOGAN OF VEDA “ IKKAM IVADITAYAM’ MEANS ‘ GOD IS ONE ONLY ‘ TOO WAS FORGOTTEN AND THE SLOGAN OF 36 MILLION GODS AND GODESSES WAS STARTED {A SHIRK}.

    11. EVEN DADA JI RAAM {A SURYA WANSHI RAJPUT} KILLED SHAMBHUKA {A SHDURA] ONLY BECAUSE SHAMBHUKA TOUCHED AND READ THE HOLY SCRIPTURE HINDUISM.

    12-KNOWING THESE FACT ABOUT HALF THE POPULATION OF THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT LEFT HINDUISM AND SARTED REMBERING ALMIGHTY WITH THE NAME OF RAB, KHUDA, PARWARDIGAR OR ALLAH SO THAT IN IMAGINATION NO IMAGE OF ALMIGHTY IS CREATED WHICH HAPPENS IN CASE OF WHEN THE NAME OF VESHNU, BHAGWAN, SHIVA, BARHAMA, IS RECITED SINCE THESE NAMES HAVE BEEN POLLUTED WITH THE CONCEPT OF PRATIMA AND THIS WAS DONE BY PANDIT ARIYANS . AFTER ALL EVEN AS PER YAJUR VED AND SHVETA VATRA UPANISHAD, NA-TASYA PRATIMA ASTI- MEANS–HE {GOD} DOES NOT HAS ANY IMAGE AND TO SAFE THE GLORY OF THIS SHRALOKA — GHAZNAVI LOOTED THE SOMNATH TEMPLE-WHICH WAS A FRAUDE TO HUMANITY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION BY PANDITS {KNOWN AS CHILDREN OF ARIYANS].

    पिस्तौल छोड़ संज्जू
    त्रिशूल बाँट सकते
    गाँधी गिरी दिखा KAR
    फिर जेल मैं न फंसते
    KAALA HIRON नहीं गर
    सूवर को मार खाते
    शोहरत भी सल्लू पते
    और जेल भी न जाते

    QURAAN KO NA LIKH KER -

    RISHWAT WA SOOD KHATE,

    IMAAN NAHIN WO DARU –

    PITEY BHI AUR PLATE,

    JIZYA NAHIN CHADHDHAWA –

    MAZHAB KI DAM KAMATE,

    AEK RAB NAHIN CARORON –

    DEVI – DEOTA PUJATE,

    INCOME KA TAX LE KAR -

    PERDES MAIN JAMATE,

    BIN DIKHTA RAB NAHIN GER –

    PHUNNE–SHIVA PUJWATE,

    TAB MUGHLIA AURANGI –

    SHOHRAT MAIN TOLE JATE,

    AND THUS MOST OF THE INDIAN MUSLIMS HAVING THE FAITH OF SHANTI IN THEIR HEARTS SPENDING LIFE CARRYING A SLOGAN IN THEIR HEARTS:

    जो चाहते हो जीना
    थोरा बनो कमीना
    मुंह पैर मिठास लाओ
    दिल कला फिर कराओ
    थोरा न मुस्कुराओ
    तुम खिल्ल्याँ उडाओ
    तहजीब और तमद्दुन
    अब भूल जाओ गुन

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